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EoRC Round 88 25/09/2020

<Appocomaster> Good evening, everyone. Welcome to another EoRC where we're locked in!
<Appocomaster> Hopefully we won't have any netsplits or similar this time - the end of the world makes running an EoRC very inconvenient
<Appocomaster> this evening, we'll be covering interviews with the winning planets
<Appocomaster> We already have some of the stats up from this round: http://beta.planetarion.com/history/history.php
<Appocomaster> there's also some information on Round 89 already on the portal: http://www.planetarion.com/news/new...88-and-round-89
<Appocomaster> and the game is almost ready for cluster alliances tomorrow :)
<Appocomaster> apart from the tax limits and fund changes
<Appocomaster> so, without further ado, we will welcome the top 3 planets
<Appocomaster> none of whom I think were in the top couple of alliances, which is unusual
<Appocomaster> anyone see Lacter?
<Appocomaster> but congrats to gmufc, who was first, and [DLR]ReligFree, who was second this round
<Appocomaster> Lacter did come third but maybe is unavailable
<gmufc> Thanks appoco!
<[DLR]ReligFree> Thank you :)
<[DLR]ReligFree> And congrats again gmufc, v.well played
<gmufc> Thanks :P Been a long week for sure
<Appocomaster> it's been a long week for many tbh
<Appocomaster> for some reason it feels like you've been here before gmufc, but maybe as part of the winning alliance/galaxy?
<[DLR]ReligFree> heh yeah, was a great final week for a change. Lots to be decided :)
<Appocomaster> you've been top 10 a few times, so how does it feel to finally sit right at the top?
<gmufc> I've been here 6 times or so in winning gal yeah
<gmufc> It was grat to finally get the top spot, I've been in the running many times before but always beaten by lucky lands last days from xp planets below
<Appocomaster> and was it xp which was driving the win this time?
<Appocomaster> I think everyone will agree it was quite an xp-heavy round
<gmufc> Yeah, for me it was combination of decent value + XP
<[DLR]ReligFree> Maybe. but seemed hard to land good XP late round. What actually happened with XP update? Did it happen? :p
<Appocomaster> so I have to admit, there was more planned xp changes in to the round than went in
<Appocomaster> it was a bit of an oversight
<Appocomaster> and will be fixed next round
<Appocomaster> along with a few other things
<Appocomaster> without trying to be overly knee-jerk
<Appocomaster> gmfuc: I mean, you were still not that close to top value
<Appocomaster> considering your score
<Appocomaster> others in the top 10 were higher - so was it the balance of the two?
<gmufc> yeah, ended #38 in value. Made it very hard to keep up with xp at the end though
<gmufc> but definitely xp was the main reason I ended #1
<gmufc> landed for max xp consistently last week, depending on who we were targeting
<Appocomaster> did you ever feel safe?
<gmufc> Not at all, I thought several times over the last days that some of the xp planets with half my value would jump in front
<Appocomaster> did alliance or galaxy come into it?
<Appocomaster> the fact you weren't in the top alliance
<gmufc> yeah, definitely. Both ally and gal was amazing and backed me up 100%
<Appocomaster> did they focus on you? I know that does happen sometimes
<gmufc> The final week that became the main focus yeah, when it was clear I had a good shot and we had nothing else to fight for
<Appocomaster> you had a lot more friendlies than most of the top planets
<Appocomaster> Lacter had < 1/2
<gmufc> yeah, thats probably cause they were more xp based and lots farmed eachother
<Appocomaster> who was your biggest rival? was there one?
<Appocomaster> I know Relig jumped in there
<gmufc> For a long time it was Ritch in Stellar, then last two days a lot of xp planets got in the race
<gmufc> I have a few thank you notes prepared if I may have a minute?
<gmufc> Had it not been for the amazing support from everyone in ODDR ally who took me in this round, and my galaxy, I would not have been her.
<gmufc> This was definitely a team effort! They backed me 100% when we saw p win was within reach.
<gmufc> The support I got from them the last days made all the difference and motivated me to put in extra effort to hunt for targets to maximize score gain as much as possible.
<gmufc> As I never had a single escort with me, the last days was increasingly challenging, but I'm relieved it worked out in the end.
<gmufc> I'd especially like to thank CBA, Greg, Dimvin and Guppie from ODDR + Johan and Night-Sky from gal for having my back and pushing/motivating me the last days!
<Appocomaster> were you escort-free all round? I mean, a slightly risque question :p
<gmufc> Also a big thanks to Heimdall, Jackie, Rhorry, TheWizard, Ca3lis, Max, Mobey, scanners and all the other people in ODDR who been a huge support the last days!
<gmufc> Despite being a small tag we took on several big tags, often at same time, and got out of it better than when it started.
<gmufc> yes, never had any escorts
<gmufc> sometimes landed with piggies
<gmufc> a few more lines from my notres.. :P
<gmufc> In the end ODDR ended up with 3 planets in top 10 and 7 in top 100, which is an impressive effort for a 30 man tag!
<gmufc> I was lucky enough to end up in a great galaxy this round with Johan, Night-Sky, SYiH, Paris, Rgat, Envy, and Bucket.
<Appocomaster> yep it is :)
<gmufc> They have been a massive support and are the main reason I was able to keep as many roids as I did, despite heavy incs the last two weeks.
<gmufc> I'd also like to thank Pappoys who made the strats set for this round! People will never agree about stats but this has definitely been one of the more balanced and enjoyable rounds for me in that regard.
<[DLR]ReligFree> Did you arrange the red def gmufc?
<gmufc> no
<gmufc> today I didnt do much at all, they all helped out
<[DLR]ReligFree> heh ok. That was annoying anyway :p
<Appocomaster> well, congrats again gmufc
<Appocomaster> glad to see you here
<gmufc> One other thing I'd like to mention while I have the word..
<Appocomaster> sure
<gmufc> Certain groups are not following the same rules as the rest of us, and they are allowed to continue this behavior despite clear evidence of cheat/abuse being provided.
<gmufc> This needs to be taken seriously by MH team, or more and more people will quit the game.
<Appocomaster> I appreciate that seems to be a strong sentiment this round, and one way or another we'll see what we can do
<Appocomaster> (not that some concerns have not been raised previously)
<gmufc> It's at a new level this round, I've heard at least 15+ people said they would leave last days
<Appocomaster> hopefully we will change their mind
<Appocomaster> but thanks and it's a fair point to raise
<Appocomaster> you have a credit ready for next round :)
<Appocomaster> now, Relig, you're also a regular here but not so much as a top 3 planet - you just jumped in in the last tick
<Appocomaster> so close but so far? how do you feel?
<[DLR]ReligFree> Indeed, sorry to the dude I knocked out last tick /o\
<[DLR]ReligFree> But yeah I'm pleased. I've played PA since round 4 or something and first time here for planet so that feels good
<gmufc> GJ! Well deserved
<Appocomaster> you were top 10 in round 55
<Appocomaster> so it's been a while
<[DLR]ReligFree> I kinda knew I had a shot last minute. Had 5 quests to drop & 100m res. If I could land ok today, I should be v.close
<[DLR]ReligFree> But thought I was going to miss out when I was 4th after lands :)
<Appocomaster> is resource hording a justified tactic? :p
<[DLR]ReligFree> I guess. People can scan me and see what is happening
<Appocomaster> true
<[DLR]ReligFree> So yeah, I think it's fine
<[DLR]ReligFree> I have a little spiel I'd like to drop if that's ok Appoco
<Appocomaster> yeah
<Appocomaster> saves me coming up with the same questions :p
<[DLR]ReligFree> Heh
<[DLR]ReligFree> Thank you to the group in my BG who were just amazing all round. Xomaz, Goat, Zebra & DrunkDusty last days. Having 2 former winners helping was definitely a huge thing. Even if Goat has been AFK since he won last round basically.
<[DLR]ReligFree> Thanks to CarDi for joining DLR to save me from a FC & my gal for scrambling so much FI for that, saved my round. And sorry Grog, you know what for.
<[DLR]ReligFree> I’ve played with most of the core DLR guys since a PA clone with 30second ticks called MyPHPPa. You’re heroes + friends.
<[DLR]ReligFree> & Xomaz you were wrong, if you have a kid it doesn’t mean you win PA. Lalalalal
<[DLR]ReligFree> Thanks guys. Happy end of summer :)
<Appocomaster> it means you have less time >:(
<Appocomaster> take it from me
<[DLR]ReligFree> I had a son 4 weeks ago :)
<Appocomaster> congrats!
<[DLR]ReligFree> The 2 hour regular wakeups help at least
<[DLR]ReligFree> But yeah I also was so tired I send the wrong fleets out twice
<[DLR]ReligFree> so hey
<[DLR]ReligFree> swings and roundabouts
<Appocomaster> I think you did pretty well
<Appocomaster> what was your strategy?
<Appocomaster> apart from planning a baby right in the middle of the round
<[DLR]ReligFree> Start off with some value. Cores etc. Then switch to MCs quick & try to max XP
<[DLR]ReligFree> Had help from BG to get the big lands
<[DLR]ReligFree> & here we are. Team 2nd place
<[DLR]ReligFree> Team of first losers sorry
<Appocomaster> :) congrats
<Appocomaster> well, even so
<Appocomaster> maybe we can give you a silver medal thing
<Appocomaster> you can give it to your son to try and eat
<[DLR]ReligFree> Oh I'm so in for a silver medal
<Appocomaster> haha :D
<[DLR]ReligFree> But yeah DLR strat helped too
<[DLR]ReligFree> rotating allies to get XP
<Appocomaster> https://www.redditstatic.com/deskto...ilver-large.png <-- like that :p
<[DLR]ReligFree> Great group & only place I feel happy playing
<[DLR]ReligFree> Kenny can vouch for that after my ZT round :p
<Appocomaster> you've been there for a long while
<[DLR]ReligFree> Yep. DLR BG in ND way back when.
<[DLR]ReligFree> All the way to now
<Appocomaster> well, congrats again
<[DLR]ReligFree> Thank you & thanks for the effort for you guys to keep PA alive
<Appocomaster> np
<[DLR]ReligFree> someone pay that https certificate
<[DLR]ReligFree> :p
<Appocomaster> tbh, sitting here and seeing people come in sometimes and going OH WOW IT'S STILL RUNNING is pretty amazing
<Appocomaster> so thanks to everyone for still playing
<Appocomaster> otherwise we'd just be running up server bills
<Appocomaster> :p
<Appocomaster> so, lacter couldn't be here
<Appocomaster> a
<Appocomaster> a "friend" of his says he definitely thanks his alliance for support
<Appocomaster> but I don't have anything I can copy/paste - will add it in the eorc if I get it officially :)
<Appocomaster> and no, that isn't lacter, that's a fake nicker
<Appocomaster> :p
<Appocomaster> so, congrats again to the top planets
<gmufc> ty
<Appocomaster> so, on to the winning galaxy
<Appocomaster> 2:5 ran away with it
<Blue_Esper> Back 2 back woo!
<SBS> :)
<Appocomaster> is anyone else here?
<Blue_Esper> No
<Appocomaster> I did try and find more people
<Appocomaster> well, congrats
<Crowsnek> Thanks :)
<Appocomaster> you have a few aussies and stuff
<Appocomaster> and then Zwan
<Blue_Esper> That was a breeze compared to last round
<Appocomaster> your glorious leader who bunked off
<Blue_Esper> Hone kiwi
<Appocomaster> so, what was your strategy?
<Blue_Esper> We had a good mix
<Appocomaster> obviously you had a solid buddy pack
<Blue_Esper> Few of us going xp
<Blue_Esper> I went valueblike an idiot
<Appocomaster> and got the mighty SBS as a random
<SBS> I got very lucky :)
<Blue_Esper> Yeh was good random pick ups
<Blue_Esper> Didnt have to exile anyone all round
<Crowsnek> Got lucky with randoms
<Appocomaster> that's unusual
<Blue_Esper> I switched to xp play final two weeks as I couldn't keep up
<Appocomaster> it was a fairly major xp round
<Appocomaster> I think next round will be more value either way
<Blue_Esper> Regardless of sitting on 3k roids. The constant incs just isn't worth keeping them
<Appocomaster> you are just a popular person
<Blue_Esper> If you remember to put them in the game and not just the manual ;)
<Blue_Esper> Gal had constant inc all round
<Appocomaster> yes :P
<Appocomaster> joint 4th most incs in the round
<Appocomaster> with Zwan
<Blue_Esper> We had so much inc from stellar that jehuty left them
<Appocomaster> being first
<SBS> yeah, red writing is burned into my retina
<Appocomaster> I'm sure you can get an extension to fix that
<Appocomaster> so- what were the key roles in the round? did alliance politics help?
<Blue_Esper> No
<Blue_Esper> Everyone 3 fleeted
<Blue_Esper> Hone sbs and me tried defending
<Blue_Esper> Then kinda gave up
<Appocomaster> a true kevin keegan round
<Blue_Esper> Just tried covering competing gals
<Blue_Esper> 7 9 had it in for us for a lot of the round and I think they were dictating stellars raids
<SBS> The stats were just not in favour of defence, no matter what class you build, there is at least 2 races and 2 alliances stratting those races who fly right past you
<Blue_Esper> So probs why we saw so much stellar inc
<Blue_Esper> The mix of classes were good for the game its nice to see different strats picked
<Appocomaster> glad to hear that
<Blue_Esper> But the whole gangbanging wasn't helping
<Appocomaster> yes, I know that's a topic
<Appocomaster> any favourite moments in the round?
<Blue_Esper> We were getting double or triple booked most nights
<Blue_Esper> Zwan getting fc like 3 times
<SBS> lol yeah
<Blue_Esper> Just made him stronger
<Blue_Esper> And people asking for def
<Blue_Esper> Was always funny
<Blue_Esper> Check gal status guys everyone out attacking!
<Appocomaster> :p
<Appocomaster> well, good
<SBS> I quite enjoyed the chat, tracking our lead
<Appocomaster> any final words or thanks?
<SBS> we took the lead early on, and just held it, sometimes it dipped to a few mil, then 6-7-8-9mil lead!
<Blue_Esper> Good to see some changes being made for next round. Keep developing the game lots of the community want to help out. Please let them!
<Blue_Esper> Crow?
<Blue_Esper> Anything
<Blue_Esper> Usually he only says any def?
<Crowsnek> Let's make it 3 in a row :)
<Appocomaster> ha
<Blue_Esper> ;)
<Appocomaster> okay, thanks all
<Appocomaster> and congrats again
<Appocomaster> ask Zwan for credits :p
<SBS> Thank you :)
<Appocomaster> congrats again to 2:5
<Appocomaster> and now, finally, the winning alliance
<Appocomaster> ZT
<[ZT]Wolf> [ZT]Game too Appoco :)
<Appocomaster> trying
<Appocomaster> there
<Appocomaster> so, congrats all
<[ZT]rUl3r> And ZTandal
<[ZT]Game> Ztandal if he isnt drunk
<Appocomaster> pfft
<[ZT]Game> (hes at the bottom)
<[ZT]rUl3r> (where he belongs)
<Appocomaster> fine
<Appocomaster> :p
<Appocomaster> so, congrats
<[ZT]Ztandal> GOOOD evening internetspreadsheetwarriors of Planetarion
<Appocomaster> saw out the final controversial challenge
<[ZT]Game> thanks Appoco
<[ZT]Wolf> damn.. he is awake :D
<Appocomaster> how was it?
<[ZT]Game> interesting last day, but got there in the end!
<[ZT]Ztandal> arrr says the pirate
<[ZT]Game> it was a strange round this round to be honest
<[ZT]Game> ZT is probably the strongest alliance for defence
<[ZT]rUl3r> Pretty intense imo
<Appocomaster> what was the most worrying point of the round?
<Appocomaster> today?
<[ZT]Game> so being an XP round it made it challenging
<[ZT]Game> no, the most worrying part was the first night we got gangbanged by 7 alliances
<[ZT]Game> which became a feature all the way through the round
<Appocomaster> THC did more defence than you? incredibly
<[ZT]rUl3r> After two rounds of pretty value heavy play, we wanted to try a slightly different approach this round
<Appocomaster> and incs
<Appocomaster> but no one else got more than that
<[ZT]Game> THC didn't have more incs
<Appocomaster> well :p
<[ZT]rUl3r> Well, defending does not seem to be rewarding in the current state of the game
<[ZT]Game> they had a few 'helpful' planets that pushed that up
<Appocomaster> who in the alliance made the difference?
<[ZT]Ztandal> oi
<[ZT]Ztandal> all of em
<[ZT]Ztandal> …….I just wanna shout out to my friends in the game, before I might pass out…. and thank you all for all the good times… I do indeed love you all… I could put in here 1000 words.. but I will round it up with. Congratutaltions on a job well done… wolf, viral, urukhai, unfor, ultramar, Tortu, theam, suntzu, steve, steffken, steakiepie, spycors, sl
akterT, shak, Ruler, Jaywalk, rabbbagast, Templar, PT, Patrick, Ony, Norton,
<Appocomaster> [ZT]rUl3r: he totally typoed your name :p
<[ZT]Game> Appoco honestly it was a strange round...
<[ZT]rUl3r> Yes that happens a lot :D
<[ZT]Game> HCing an alliance that wanted to win, and you were trying to find ways to lose your roids to any other alliance that wasn't in the top5 was silly
<[ZT]Wolf> [23:57] <@Appocomaster> who in the alliance made the difference? <-- tbh all the people (BG leaders) who put all the effort in to get all those fleets moving
<[ZT]Wolf> our attack fleet activity was great and that made the difference
<[ZT]Ztandal> yea... the hardest part of HCing this round was to make this amazing crew, defend and look this shitty... it was not easy at all
<[ZT]rUl3r> I can't single out anyone, a lot of people poured in major effort to get the ally to the top in the end
<Appocomaster> well, it paid off
<Appocomaster> so congrats to you all
<[ZT]Ztandal> indeed
<[ZT]Ztandal> xp is borring for us
<[ZT]Ztandal> but we adapted and own
<[ZT]Game> Appoco
<Appocomaster> well, I'm sure it will swing back a bit next round
<[ZT]Game> just say thanks to the alliances we were close to this round too
<Appocomaster> if they weren't so close you wouldn't be able to get xp off them?
<[ZT]Game> no i don't mean that
<[ZT]Game> i need our friends in other alliances
<[ZT]Ztandal> that help in on raids
<[ZT]Wolf> yes our pets
<[ZT]Game> ND particularly, but also ODDR and HR
<Appocomaster> lol :p
<Appocomaster> ah okay :)
<[ZT]Game> their support was greatly appreciated
<[ZT]Game> Thanks to the members this round who have been absolutely brilliant. We have had a few new recruits this round, but generally speaking the same core has stayed for the last 3 rounds. A win has been a long time coming for these guys, and after feeling like we deserved at least one win in the previous 2 rounds, it is great to finally secure one.
<[ZT]Game> can i just say a few points on the game itself too Appoco?
<[ZT]rUl3r> We had some good partners out there we worked together with damn well over the course of the round. At least half this game is politics and everyone knows this
<Appocomaster> I mean, it's not really the forum for it
<Appocomaster> and we're already considering next round changes
<[ZT]Ztandal> Rest is amps Rul3r... more amps ftw
<[ZT]Game> well...
<[ZT]Game> tough :D
<[ZT]Ztandal> its not much that has to be changes appoco,... but a few wery important things... we all know it... and good luck do it
<[ZT]rUl3r> Nah Appoco, this is just the right forum for some remarks that need to be made
<[ZT]Game> the game is about the community, not the game itself. Over the last few rounds the direction of the game plan has fractured that
<[ZT]Game> it is not right in my opinion, that an alliance such as ourselves, wins without defending the last half of the round
<[ZT]Game> the most important part of the game should be your roids, and keeping them should be rewarded
<[ZT]Game> an alliance is brought together when people work together
<[ZT]Game> people constantly 3 fleet attacking solo is not that
<[ZT]Ztandal> Indeeed a hard ballance to do... since you allso dont want to push away the people who like to play more casual thou
<Appocomaster> it is a fair point and the 6 man buddy packs and some other tweaks around def xp should hopefully bring the balance back towards def and value more
<[ZT]Game> and an alliance win should not be influenced by planets that have not been involved in alliance battles
<[ZT]Game> def xp :/
<[ZT]rUl3r> Also, Appoco, please, join the PA TG chan. Get in touch with people
<Appocomaster> there is def xp already
<[ZT]Game> its not more XP that is needed
<Appocomaster> we're just tweaking it slightly
<[ZT]Game> its rewarding value
<Appocomaster> and that's things we are looking at
<[ZT]Game> anyway, i've said enough i guess, but honestly thanks for your efforts with the game, but please consider the value vs XP balance
<[ZT]Ztandal> allso good videos should give allyscore...
<Appocomaster> yes, as I said on the portal announcement and a couple of times in the ceremony, we are looking at it
<[ZT]Game> great
<[ZT]Game> just one more thing...
<[ZT]Game> ZT will be back again next round
<[ZT]Game> despite the 50 man limit, we may have a few spots
<[ZT]Wolf> we are back?
<Appocomaster> I'm sure everyone will enjoy competing
<[ZT]rUl3r> Well, as closing remarks from me, I'd like to thank my allymates for the effort they put in, our partners for the good cooperation, and the competition for an interesting round.
<[ZT]Game> so anyone interested get in touch :D
<Appocomaster> thanks all
<Appocomaster> and now time for the allcomp!
<Appocomaster> congrats again, ZT
<[ZT]Wolf> Dino, you ever won so many things in one day?
<[ZT]Game> 2 wins on my CV :D
<Appocomaster> lol :p
<[ZT]Ztandal> GOod nite internetspreadsheetwarriors
<Appocomaster> goodnight all
<Appocomaster> er
<Appocomaster> I mean, well done all :p
<Appocomaster> it's allcomp time!
<Pea> Tags counted, scanned 96 nicks and found 10 different tags. 0 tags were excluded/banned. Top 10 tags are:
<Pea> #10. Tag: IPC, count: 1
<Pea> #9. Tag: ULT, count: 1
<Pea> #8. Tag: THC, count: 1
<Pea> #7. Tag: Offline, count: 1
<Pea> #6. Tag: DLR, count: 2
<Pea> #5. Tag: Oddr, count: 2
<Pea> #4. Tag: xVx, count: 4
<Pea> #3. Tag: HR, count: 4
<Pea> #2. Tag: ND, count: 12
<Pea> #1. Tag: ZT, count: 21
<Appocomaster> congrats zt
<Appocomaster> even more credits to you!
<Appocomaster> thanks everyone for staying