<Appocomaster> Good evening, everyone, and welcome to Round 89 - Disconnected
<Appocomaster> Where we were all connected to Planetarion and playing along as normal :p
<Appocomaster> A few links:
<Appocomaster> Beta history rankings: http://beta.planetarion.com/history/history.php
<Appocomaster> Misc stats: http://pirate.planetarion.com/showt...d.php?p=3264416
<Appocomaster> General rankings: http://www.planetarion.com/news/new...und-89-rankings
<Appocomaster> Information on Round 89, Winter Round and Round 90: http://www.planetarion.com/news/new...nd-and-round-90
<Appocomaster> The game has been setup ready for havoc, which starts tomorrow morning at 09:00 GMT
<Appocomaster> Some light reading whilst you watch this entertainment :)
<Appocomaster> Now, firstly, we'll welcome the round winners to the stage to congratulat them
<Appocomaster> we have Jintao as #1, Caj as #2 and TeK as #3
<Appocomaster> I can't see Tek
<CBA> I can talk for Tek too if needed
<Appocomaster> did he give you anything to say?
<Appocomaster> :p
<CBA> I can sort something let me call buff :D
<Jintao> tek's at a wake atm
<Appocomaster> ah thanks for letting me know, Jintao
<Appocomaster> I can understand that he's probably not going to be available then
<CBA> Grats Jintao I see you battled hard this round with your 15k BS attack fleet
<Appocomaster> well, congrats to him and sorry for his loss.
<Appocomaster> firstly, we want to congratulate Jintao
<Appocomaster> now Jintao, I know we haven't spoken in *ages*, but I believe you've won a few bits and pieces before
<Jintao> a few yes
<Jintao> and thanks cba, it was really hard :p
<Appocomaster> what's got you back now?
<CBA> tough round pal, well played
<Jintao> luck?
<Jintao> wans't meant to win but somehow i got the roids and didn't loose em
<CBA> How many inc did you have Jintao?
<Appocomaster> when did you realise you could win?
<CBA> Total and pre last week
<Jintao> 70 something
<Jintao> 42 before 2 days ago
<Appocomaster> 73
<CBA> wow
<Appocomaster> Lacter got 50
<Appocomaster> Caj got by far and away the most, over 500
<Jintao> 32 incs pre tick 500
<Jintao> 6 during the dlr war
<Jintao> 3 after the dlr war
<CBA> Jintao why did you have so little inc? May i ask - who to thank for that
<Jintao> prisco
<Jintao> he did carn politics
<Appocomaster> :D
<Appocomaster> so Jintao, was it mostly alliance politics?
<Appocomaster> #1 alliance, by a bit
<Jintao> We were a rank 60 gal early round, most incs are from that period. Once we made it to top gal status coupled with politics everyone avoided us
<Jintao> yes
<Appocomaster> alliance and galaxy?
<CBA> Carnage fort right
<Jintao> the first time i won in ct, i had 34 incs all round, 20 in the last day from ult i believe CBA
<Appocomaster> what was the defining part of the round?
<CBA> Should swap places with me or caj for a round Jin ;) missing half the fun
<Jintao> euhm probably DLR not landing carn
<Jintao> CBA: My second win i had like 700 incs i think
<Jintao> spore hit me 3 weeks straight with lol waves
<Jintao> was p3n that round
<Appocomaster> Jintao: you've been top covert opper, top scanner and obviously top planet
<CBA> fair enough - and yes Carnage was a brick wall for DLR - we couldnt find enough support
<CBA> this is your third win?
<Jintao> yes
<Jintao> yea i've done pretty much everything except hc an alliance
<CBA> impressive - did it help you knew more about the formulaes for this round
<CBA> new EXP and War etc etc
<Appocomaster> to be fair, he probably knew less than you thoguht :p
<Jintao> not really, if anything i held carn back
<Appocomaster> :D
<Jintao> i always kept saying split your targets split your targets
<Jintao> while i saw other allies focussing more and not triggering war
<CBA> I have no idea what he knew but im sure he knew more then me
<CBA> Ah ok
<CBA> We notcied war timers didnt work properly you could get 25% off another ally heh
<Appocomaster> Jintao: what was your round highlight?
* Jintao eyes Appocomaster
<Appocomaster> to be fair, a lot of stuff came in this round
<Appocomaster> and a few things were still being tweaked
<Appocomaster> and I admit, some settling of contents occured during the round
<Appocomaster> Jintao: I didn't mean highlight me :p
<Jintao> euhm the most fun part was the race with mostly caj for top planet, i started the round really slow and got fat and kept growing. than suddenly a 500 roid land day which put me on top and than i suddenly become possible to win and it was a race to catch up to caj & tek who were maybe 3 mil score ahead of me?
<Appocomaster> did your race make a difference?
<Jintao> goh yes and no
<Appocomaster> quite a few caths in the top planets
<Jintao> issue on cath was too many kil ships and still salvage bonus
<Jintao> it did help some, but it didn't get me more lands, just maybe made me harder to roid?
<Jintao> i'd say my con build plan and my high roid count mostly?
<Appocomaster> do you have lots of ideas for me to code for next round? :p
<Jintao> yes
<Appocomaster> hurray :D
<Appocomaster> any final thanks / etc?
<Jintao> well sure a few
<Jintao> to the gal for supporting me the last few days, prisco's attack BG (you know who you are) for escorting me for 2 days
<Jintao> the alliance for defending me when i had incs , hc's for supporting me last few days aswell
<Jintao> and ofc can't forget cardi, kheros and dorf, my fanclub with their secret clubhouse
<CBA> When did you tax get switched off?#
<Appocomaster> lol :D
<Jintao> euhm about 10 days to round end?
<CBA> saved a small fortune !!
<Jintao> one of the things i hated was ave taxing 3% all round cause he wanted to donate out for def ships
<Appocomaster> CBA: did you get taxed?
<Jintao> it made a huge diff, i told priscos i can catch up, but the tax is the diff between catching up and not
<CBA> Who? Caj? Probably not tbh
<Jintao> he said we'll see, about 5 day later eh turned it off i think
<CBA> GUessing though but CBA pays his taxes
<Jintao> caj wasn't taxed
<Appocomaster> lol :p
<Jintao> duno when they turne dit off
<CBA> VGN played for Caj to win
<CBA> so his taxes turned off very early
<Appocomaster> well, Jintao - thanks :)
<Appocomaster> and congrats again
<Appocomaster> CBA: you had a statement prepared from caj?
<CBA> yes ofc
<CBA> and we had a 2 hour phone call so i can take questions
<CBA> sec for paste
<Appocomaster> oh wow, some prep!
<CBA> my high rank position is 100% a team position, VGN have defended me brilliantly this round, I had 520 incomings all of them DENIED. So to all of Vengeance, thank you, storming team effort across the board for defence this round. Good job and see you all next round. VGN is on the rise;)
<CBA> in addition, my galaxy have been the most awesome bunch of lads you could ask for, spycors, bucket, mac, lonney, kenny, and unfor the proper dudes of ZT, cool laid back, some great advice and amazing commitment defending ingal again, and to my VGN boys, mobey, amos and paris, you guys have been the best
<Appocomaster> :)
<Appocomaster> how did he handle trying to deal with Jintao catching up and overtaking him?
<CBA> Again ofc congrats Jintao (or prisco) for excellent Pols - But ofc I had good pols with Judo - This isnt the first time VGN had a top planet remmeber that
<CBA> Well Caj attacked like absolute racoon
<CBA> if you check launches
<CBA> By far most launches in game from Caj
<Jintao> yea caj did a great job delaying my overtake, got alot of def xp and alot of attacks in
<Appocomaster> 10 more than Jintao
<Jintao> did his scan xp like a beast too
<CBA> Wish Jintao chasing Caj was tracking witha nifty excel spreadsheet
<Appocomaster> he did launch almost 3 times as many as Jintao though
<CBA> HAd some nice VGN pals escorting
<CBA> Yes hehe
<CBA> To be honest at the end it was a little desperate for example Caj hit the mighty 71 today and tried to roid Gmufc
<CBA> unfortunately he crashed with 2 teamups on a self covered wave hehe
<CBA> Just trying to force any lands
<CBA> Jintao had much better FC then Caj if you noticed
<Jintao> ye was behind a little and he knew it
<Jintao> we both tracked eachother pretty well the last week
<CBA> So the income was mounting
<CBA> tbh it was a good race
<Appocomaster> did alliances and galaxies make a big difference?
<Jintao> yea most fun part of the round :)
<CBA> VGN played for me and although carn didnt play for Jin their pols helped them
<CBA> Well
<Appocomaster> I mean, almost a million in it at the end but the top 3 were clearly in a league of their own
<CBA> VGN had napped with all major allies
<CBA> If you look top 3 Peng VGN and Carn
<CBA> basically all fenced most of the round hehe
<CBA> Im sure inc stats will see
<Appocomaster> well, the stats are out
<CBA> Caj incs came in last week really
<CBA> Strange thing i noticed tho today (CBA was rank 33) and could only gain 3k XP from max cap Caj
<CBA> never seen anything like that
<CBA> so you really had to rely on income
<CBA> lands didnt do anything like normal this round
<Appocomaster> we'll tweak it for next round
<CBA> in terms of XP score gains
<Appocomaster> no doubt
<Jintao> indeed, xp was set very safe cause everyone was tired of xp rounds
<Jintao> and yes set too safe
<Appocomaster> something to tweak for WINTER!
<Appocomaster> (WINTER IS COMING)
<CBA> GG to Carnage Btw - well done especially Prisco
<Jintao> if you look back 20 rounds, you'll see planets with 30k xp win planet
<CBA> Appoco youre a savage letting winter run over Christmas lol
<Appocomaster> well, it does
<CBA> before it endedd a few days b4 xmas
<Kheros> Alright CBA and Jin, quiet carebears. Tek asked me to join in his stead.
<Appocomaster> well, nevermind
<CBA> yes SIr
<CBA> Grats on the round Kheros
<Kheros> I have a message from him, and a small addition from myself.
<Appocomaster> CBA: any final comments from Caj?
<CBA> See you all next round
<CBA> Thank you for your time
<CBA> GG
<Appocomaster> cheers CBA
<Appocomaster> well, congrats to TeK for being third but pretty close in the top group
<Appocomaster> if you are able to?
<Kheros> First, he wanted to thank all of p3n for the round, as well as his awesome gal, which was clearly superior to CBA's galaxy. It was easy.
<CBA> :D
<Kheros> Second, IB is coming back next round, Tek will obviously be with IB, so don't bother trying to recruit the best still active PA player.
<Appocomaster> well, it was top galaxy :p
<Kheros> Third, this is not Tek, but a statement from me, I will take it upon myself to the pa community to make sure carebears like CBA, caj and Jin are not talking in here next round
<Kheros> Eorc still suck, good job on the 50man ally tho
<Appocomaster> oooooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooo
<Kheros> Cya
<Appocomaster> well, thanks
<Appocomaster> that concludes the update from the T3
<Appocomaster> and some fighting talk
<Appocomaster> congrats to the top 3
<Appocomaster> you all got a credit
<Appocomaster> moving on, we go to the top galaxy, 6:5
<Appocomaster> who did pretty well
<Appocomaster> so, in no particular order
<Swainey> Thanks appoc
<Appocomaster> okay, I think I got you all
<[ZT]iambRad> [ZT]Bobzy
<Appocomaster> ;P
<Appocomaster> so, the ZT plus a few extras galaxy
<Appocomaster> did you always intend to be such a big Zt galaxy?
<Swainey> Was 5050 with p3ng
<[ZT]Bobzy> Don't diss p3ng Appoco :(
<Swainey> We had 3 p3ng 3 zt as bp
<Appocomaster> yes sorry, says the p3ng
<[ZT][6-5]Pt> With Brad and I having our roots in p3n
<Appocomaster> was that key in your success?
<Swainey> Which was the plan
<Swainey> Yep big time
<[ZT]Bobzy> No, it was all about zzhou
<Swainey> Guys we could trust
<zzhou> THIS IS MY MOMENT
<Swainey> Plus me and brad ditched venox in our bp which was the absolute key
<Appocomaster> zzhou was an early exile, totally
<[ZT]Bobzy> zzhou made us
<Swainey> Yeah once we got that #10
<[ZT][6-5]Pt> The key was Qq roiding DLR, who after that started a war against them
<Swainey> Couldnt be beat
<Appocomaster> was that really the key moment of the round?
<Swainey> Part of it
<Swainey> Meant 71 had heavy inc
<Swainey> We had heavy inc early but once we got big didnt see much after that
<[ZT]iambRad> Everything came together nicely, build and politics between p3ng & ZT worked really well hand in hand and we could rely on each other as if we were ally mates
<zzhou> it was for me, imagine sending 30+ fleets @ a planet in an alliance that doens't defend
<Appocomaster> 7:1 did get twice as many incomings
<Swainey> Yeah we saw cath bs was op
<Appocomaster> (they were a lot higher)
<[ZT]Bobzy> able to leech that cross def xp
<[ZT]Bobzy> Just all the time
<[ZT]Bobzy> Thanks to DLR (shoutout)
<Swainey> So to have cath bs ter fe really worked for def
<[ZT][6-5]Pt> Anyways. I'm quite busy, so I'll keep it short and let the others joke around. Loved the def exp, it gives more options in play. The stats were a bit to defensive. Thanks to Zt and p3n for providing good cover. Special thanks to Brad and Swainey dcing our planets. Specisl mention to Zeb as well. A gentleman all round, even when the round was bad for DLR.
<[ZT]iambRad> Could always rely on some DLR incs on zzhou for Def XP
<[ZT][6-5]Pt> Zzhou and Beward combined top planet
<zzhou> 15.1m > 14.2m
<[ODDR]beward-65> \o/
<zzhou> we won beward
<zzhou> we did it
<Appocomaster> lol :p
<[ZT]Bobzy> Yes - all about that #10
<Appocomaster> hmmm
<Appocomaster> any final thanks or comments?
<[ODDR]beward-65> since zzhou and me started as scanners, we are allowed to add our score together. true story, look it up. :P
<[ZT]iambRad> beward and zzhou were amazing randoms to have, very active and contributed very well to the gal
<zzhou> i'd like to thank stoom and stooms mum, anne & xmokin for finding me even when i was hiding behind my fake planet and ruler name
<Swainey> Yep
<zzhou> i'd also like to say thanks to tek for wanting to exile me
<zzhou> when he found out i was qq
<Appocomaster> well, apparently they decided to keep you
<Swainey> Big thanks to the allys. My ally p3ng was huge we cant do it without the support of our alliances
<zzhou> and thanks to qq for defending me 3 or 4 times even though that's against their policy
<zzhou> other things i should mention: spidergate, tacos, psa, bridesmaiding, kingmaking,
<zzhou> and finally iambRad craps a lot
<Swainey> Thanks also to zt oddr qq dlr in supporting the other guys
<Appocomaster> what?!?
<[ODDR]beward-65> i would like to thank EVERYONE in gal and ofc ODDR, who helped deffing me, whenever possible. :)
<[ZT]iambRad> Shout out to ZT for supporting us
<[ZT]iambRad> Also shoutout to PL and the Awesome Foursome!
<Swainey> Alsi congrats to xarn for winning ally
<Swainey> Carn
<Appocomaster> :D
<zzhou> and thanks to swainey for choosing not to exile me
<Appocomaster> all power with EoRC
<zzhou> Swainey you didn't mention Shane Watson?
<[ZT]Bobzy> Shane Watson.
<Swainey> Ohh yes
<[ZT]iambRad> THE GLORIOUS ONE
<[ZT]Bobzy> Sometimes is was like zzhou WAS Shane Watson
<Swainey> To watto my hero
<Swainey> Loce you
<Swainey> Love
<Appocomaster> why Shane?
<Appocomaster> at first I thought it was like, Scott Sterling
<Swainey> Hes been the firgurehead of my bp for a long time
<Appocomaster> ah okay
<Appocomaster> well, no surprise
<Swainey> And the greatest aus cricketer in history
<Appocomaster> yeah exactly
<[ZT]Bobzy> Oh also, thank you to TorTu
<[ZT]iambRad> Thanks Tortoise!
<[ZT]Bobzy> I would normally bp with him and our gal would fail - but he decided not to play, so I bp'd with ace guys instead
<[ZT]Bobzy> TorTu <3
<Appocomaster> lol lucky :P
<Appocomaster> okay, if there's nothing else then thanks all :)
<[ODDR]beward-65> scanners union forever. ¬_¬
<Swainey> Thanks appoc
<Appocomaster> okay, and so finally
<Appocomaster> the winning alliance
<Appocomaster> Congrats to CaRnage
<Appocomaster> we welcome Avenger, Mellow and Prisco
<[CaRn]Prisco> Thanks! I have a small speech
<[CaRn]Prisco> Our goal for this round was to make carnage great again. I would say we were successful. People tell me I did tremendous things. Avengeri cried a few times, he thanked me personally so many times. The greatness has never been seen earlier, this will go to history as the greatest victory of all.
<Appocomaster> well, saves me having to ask questions
<[CaRn]Prisco> When I do pols, I get my inspiration from the river outside, it is a beautiful river. The river has become beautiful since I started looking at it. And all the boats are also amazing since I started looking at them. That is things that some amazing folks are telling me all the time. And I have to believe them, I believe in good folks and they believe in me. Those who dot believe in me are really not good folks.
<[CaRn]Prisco> All the time good folks approach me - wonderful regular folks and thank me for my greatness. Many cry, then I go home. I am practically home before I left home. I went home and wrote this, a wonderful and amazing piece of text. I want to congratulate everyone reading these amazing words written by an amazing person.
<[CaRn]Prisco> Haha, joke aside, shoot with the questions ;)
<[CaRn]Mellow> Thanks and hey :)
<Appocomaster> oh wow
<Appocomaster> got inspiration from someone?
<Appocomaster> so, carnage has been floating around the top - all rounds since 77 I think?
<Appocomaster> twice you were second, and also third - so congrats on being first
<Appocomaster> what made the difference this round?
<[CaRn]Prisco> Thank you!
<Appocomaster> alliance strategy?
<Appocomaster> politics?
<[CaRn]Mellow> Teamwork
<[CaRn]Prisco> Well a mix of all, a great team, luck etc.
<Appocomaster> what did you change from last round?
<[CaRn]Mellow> luck yeah
<Appocomaster> haha
<[CaRn]Prisco> Winning ally I think requires a good team and being the least hated basically. We were lucky with that, few had grudges from last rounds
<Appocomaster> do you feel you were underestimated?
<[CaRn]Prisco> So instead of attacking us back, they fought others.
<[CaRn]Prisco> Na, not underestimated, maybe a little, most probably expected us to fight ZT which would have given DLR the win probably
<Appocomaster> you had by far and away the most roids
<[CaRn]Mellow> Better to be the 3rd dog with the bone
<[CaRn]Prisco> So Empress joked about it in pa chan that we should work together and it was not a bad idea, so we went with it and I want to thank ZT for sticking with the deal all round.
<Appocomaster> making alliances just because of jokes - weirder things have happened :p
<[CaRn]Prisco> True, but it was unexpected I guess
<Appocomaster> any learnings for next round?
<[CaRn]Prisco> Well not to base decisions on emotions and old grudges.
<[CaRn]Prisco> But I guess we followed that this round :)
<[CaRn]Mellow> Who would have thought zt and carn could work together?
<Appocomaster> who stood out in the round?
<Appocomaster> and what was this about tax sorting the winning planet? :P
<[CaRn]Mellow> Prisco, by far
<[CaRn]Prisco> Just to make it clear, we like to fight up, we see ZT as a great tag and that has mostly been a reason to fight em. Good challange
<[CaRn]Prisco> Well id say Icerlain, our main DC, its hard to find an unselfish member like that. She gives great deal of time, went scans first and never care about own rank. She saved many roids for us.
<[CaRn]Prisco> Also Falran and Jintao who helped DC during the most extreme nights.
<[CaRn]Prisco> And Aveger, with his 100+ def fleets :)
<[CaRn]Avenger> We joined r71 dear Appocco :P Part of us played with GROSS between r34-44 or something.
<[CaRn]Mellow> Yeah, Icerlain saved the day so often :) And Avenger oc for keeping people active
<[CaRn]Prisco> Also I want to thank Will (Elwood) for not crashing, seems to be the secret recipe to win ;)
<Appocomaster> the round CaRnage started as CaRnage in round 77
<[CaRn]Mellow> Falran dc-ing,to many to mention, team effort
<[CaRn]Prisco> Yes, we were called kittenz before...
<Appocomaster> there we go :p
<Appocomaster> ah, and you won in R72
<Appocomaster> my mistake :)
<Appocomaster> well, if you keep changing your name ...
<[CaRn]Prisco> But overall it was an awesome team effort, many people pitched in, want to thank the whole team of carnage, can't mention all. :)
<Appocomaster> so - who made the call to change Jintao's tax rate? :p
<[CaRn]Mellow> QT would want a mention hehe
<[CaRn]Avenger> We might, its the players that matters, not the name, alltho own name is kinda better than the KittenZ one :P
<[CaRn]Prisco> I changed Jins tax :)
<Appocomaster> are you happy with that choice?
<Appocomaster> :p
<[CaRn]Mellow> overall it was me donating and doing the tax :)
<[CaRn]Prisco> Well of course I'm happy with pain, but tbh that was no prio and we only started caring last few days, ofc Jin cared all the time :)
<[CaRn]Prisco> pain = pwin
<Appocomaster> haha
<Appocomaster> :D
<Appocomaster> okay, any final words?
<[CaRn]Prisco> But I also want to point out Caj did a great job ofc, very active so he deserved it.
<[CaRn]Mellow> Ice is the best DC ever.
<[CaRn]Prisco> Yeah I want to thank all HCs,
<[CaRn]Prisco> I had contact with many enjoyed the honest discussion we had and the respect :)
<Appocomaster> good :)
<Appocomaster> well, thanks all
<Appocomaster> and congrats again to you all
<[CaRn]Mellow> Thnks Carn for all the love
<[CaRn]Prisco> Thanks and fix XP a bit ;)
<Appocomaster> yes of c
<[CaRn]Prisco> But I read you are on it ;)
<Appocomaster> we will look
<Appocomaster> thanks all
<Appocomaster> now, time for the tagging!
<Pea> Tags counted, scanned 89 nicks and found 12 different tags. 0 tags were excluded/banned. Top 10 tags are:
<Pea> #10. Tag: ODDR, count: 1
<Pea> #9. Tag: 6-5, count: 1
<Pea> #8. Tag: P3ng, count: 1
<Pea> #7. Tag: Offline, count: 1
<Pea> #6. Tag: Stellar, count: 2
<Pea> #5. Tag: VGN, count: 2
<Pea> #4. Tag: CT, count: 4
<Pea> #3. Tag: ND, count: 8
<Pea> #2. Tag: CaRn, count: 12
<Pea> #1. Tag: zt, count: 16
<Appocomaster> wd zt!
<Appocomaster> 3 credits over to you :)
<Appocomaster> okay, log up soon
<Appocomaster> thanks all :)